Disgaea 4 Complete+

I spent 3 hours trying to figure this one out, read about evilities, powerups, masteries, innocents, skills, but my top was around 8 Billion.

I read that you can do this by building a custom map and I did.

My main is Desco and she had the evilities Flat Alliance and Mana Scarcity (+50% ATK)

I also had:

A Level 300 R39 weapon (which Maxed my ATK stat)

Full Stored Levels

100% more critical damage thanks to 5 people with Luck Song

100 professional innocents

500 monster hunters innocents

500 guardian innocents

25 Fusion lovers

Prinny Kurtis which boosted my damage on empty squares

A beastmaster that boosted me.

FIVE 450% Ally Boost Blocks (for a 2250% Ally boost when I fusion into Big Desco)

against 1 L15 thrash character..

Couldnt get it..I tried different combos, nada.

But then... BUT THEN... I tried putting MORE trash mobs, this should decrease my damage because of Kurtis evility.. but..

DING!

It looks like, the damage was multiplied for every different mob I hit with it and the achievement pop!

In Disgaea 5, you cannot do this for the top damage achievement, since the damage must be to a single mob, so I didnt think it would work here.

So yeah, by adding more mobs to the formula, I finally got the achievement!

Here's a video of how I did it, hope it helps!

You'll notice you will need to get 22+39+29+38+38+39(205) pieces.

Thats more than 190 discipline room confessions of treasure, so over 190 kidnappings.

It's going to take a while...

The rest are gotten through the item world pirates, by hunting and defeating them but using the cheat shop, you can increase their spawn rate, although you will still need to be in the right route, making encountering all pirates in one single run, impossible.

So, how can we speed up the kidnapping and obtaining the parts?

This thread has a great idea:

https://www.playstationtrophies.org/forum/disgaea-4-a-promise-unforgotten/128071-guide-obtaining-all-ship-parts-fun-slayer-weapons.html

Basically, the mechanics of the treasure placement of the discipline room forbids putting treasure on maps you havent cleared.

So, first, we need to be strong enough to deal with Level 7000 or more enemies and Val at Max level (9999). [So we can kidnap without problems]

Capturing mechanics.

If you dont know the capturing mechanics, its simple.

Lift an enemy and throw it into the base blue panel, the less HP it has, the easier will be, but usually there shouldnt be problems with a full hp enemy.

A battle will happen, I THINK the capturing mechanics consider the stats of everyone inside versus the enemy that got thrown in, so I always leave my strongest characters in there to help capturing but I always leave my main character out in case the base panel is destroyed and I need to complete the item world section.

If you win, the enemy will be sent to the discipline room.

It gets harder to capture an enemy each time you try it on the same stage, if you want to play it safe, capture two at most per floor.

Discipline Room and Treasure

The basics are simple, you capture a mob, you go to the room, you discipline them and then ask you for treasure.

The game will check a CLEARED battle area to spawn the treasure.

The higher the mob level the higher the chances a good treasure will spawn (like pirate ship parts).

Depending on the mob type (Gunner, Ghost, Succubus, Force Knight, Thief, etc), a specific pirate ship or "fun" weapon will spawn.

The tier of the class doesnt matter (Tier 1 or Tier 6, its the same).

The item of the treasure will always be set the moment you ask the enemy for treasure.

So, always save after their SP is low enough to ask for treasure but before asking for treasure, if you go into the battle and open the treasure and find is trash, reload.

This is very time consuming so we need to fool the game to give us the treasure in a fast battle that we can clear in under a minute.

To do that, we need a new cycle? why? because we will only have ONE cleared battle area and the treasure will always spawn there.

Just so you know, if you start a new cycle:

You will lose most story characters and unlocked characters like Prinny Kurtis and Zetta.

You will lose access to land of Carnage (you can unlock it after one new battle, but we wont, I'll explain why)

Everything else will be normal, so unequip those characters that you will lose and make sure Val and some others can help you capture L5000+ mobs.

I really recommend you leave this achievement until the last ones.

The battle area we will clear and use for this is X8-8 (X Dimension episode 8, battle 8: True Final Weapon)

Anyway, once you are set up, capture enemies from the item world and get the treasure from them, battle it out, find a piece or something nice, move on.

This can take from 10 to 20 hours, depending on your luck and/or capture/open treasure speed.

The only enemy we cant find in the item world are prinnies (except the pirates), so capture some of those if you can while hunting their pirate ship piece.

If you cant capture the prinny pirates, leave their pirate ship parts until the end and when there's only those pieces left, go to battle X7-6 to capture some prinnes and get the final parts!

Here's a video of how I did it.

Oh boy, this is the big one.

To complete this achievement, you need to gather at least one rarity of every item.
From gums to the fabled Rank 41 Issen sword, you need to fill that list.

Remember, rarity doesnt matter, for it to count, you can get a Rare Shortcake instead of a normal one and it will count, so you dont have to find the snack again.

Snacks and weights are the hardest ones to find in the wild, treasures and bonus lists are your best options.

You will also need all stat enhancing vials sold by the tower cat.
This cat is atop a tower in a special mystery room, to reach him, you need a high level Val to jump up there, you might need to visit him three or four times to get all the different kinds of medicine.

Another mystery room you need to find is the magichange weight one, a single beastmaster will gift you this weight, I dont know if it has any spawning requirements.

Buy all different kinds of Cellphones and XP/Mana Potions from the vendors when you see them.

And finally the Lottery Mystery Room will sell you three kinds of tickets you need to buy.

So anyway, what else you have to know about item collecting?
You can only get Rank 35+ items if you play on Land of Carnage, so you need that unlocked (See that section for more info).

You can only get Rank 40 items if you STEAL them from an Item God while in the Floor 100 IN the Land of Carnage (LoC).

What this means is that, if you want a Rank 40 Baal Sword:
You need a Legendary Rank 39 Yoshisuna (Found in LoC Item Worlds)
Go into the Item world (you can do this in your normal base)
Go to Floor 99, Gency Out, Save.
If you are not in LoC, go to LoC now.
Go into the IW and to Floor 100.
DO NOT Kill the Item God until you steal its Legendary Weapon, a Level 9999 Thief, stealing from behind, is your best bet. You can do this with other L9999 characters but they will only have a 50% chance, if you kill the God before stealing its R40 item, reload.

Once your item is acquired, guess what? you have to do it again to get a Rank 41 item!

But you also need a Rank 41 Armor, the Rank 40 Armor you can steal from Tyrant Baal.

So: You need to steal 2 legendaries from each weapon category from an Item God, that's 200 floors for first,sword,spear,gun,axe,bow,staff, grey monster weapons, but only 1 red monster weapons and 100 more for armor.

You can both steal a Crowbar(R40 Red M.Weapons) from Pringer X, saving you the effort and the R40 Armor from Baal.

You will also need to steal a Trap(trapezohedron) from the item god of a Legendary Arcadia which you can also steal, that's another 100 floors.

1900 floors!

Grab on to your grinding butts, cuz its gonna be a fun time!

Some tips:
You can use move again after you move, when you mess up a move.
Use flying characters like Death, Desco, Des X, Gig, Moth, etc.
Some enemies have high evade, try and attack from the back.
Enchanters always leave a Zombie behind, have a third character so it can take it out.
You can make an item have +6MV with Senate bills, if you do this to some Shoes, you can get really far. Pretty Puppy Stick is your best friend.

For collector, you will need a Rank 39 weapon, go and get a Rank 40 from the Land of Carnage Floor 100 item world floor, then do that again to get the Rank 41 version.

Here is a video of how I ran my last Item World, from level 1 to level 100 in under 22 minutes.

You will also need all fun items and slayer weapons, you can get those easy if you capture and discipline enemies level 5000 or above, the higher the better.

Special Weapons
Some weapons you need for your collection come with special NPCs, like Etna with her Elder spear or that mechanic kid with the Wrench from the "Back to the Future" DLC.
Be on the lookout for those. You only need to recruit the NPC for it to count.

Magichange Weapons and Fusion-Magichange
But that's not all!

You also need to use the normal and BIG versions of all monster magichanges.
So for that Slime Spear, you need to magichange when he is normal size and also magichange when he is fusioned and BIG sized.

To accomplish this, you will need the The Fusion Weapon Lab Evil Symbol.
To unlock that, you need to kill 100 enemies while Fusioned.
Desco Fusioned with anything killing at Mt. Ordeal 4 is the best way to get this.
Read more about that here:
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So basically:
Make sure the monster is part of the evil area of the Fusion Weapon Lab.

Get Monster out.
Get Human out.
Magichange with human.
Quit->Retry

Get Monster out.
Get another monster out->Fusion.
Get Human out.
Get Fusioned monster to magichange with human.

Fun Weapons and Slayer Weapons
To complete your collection you will ALSO need a bunch of Fun weapons (They have ! icons) and have special innocents.

You also need Slayer weapons that can be found in treasure chests gotten through the Discipline Room.
*Just note that the thread is missing one fun weapon: Tennis Racquet gotten from Healer.

Basically, get treasures from Level 6000 or more enemies and you will get the best stuff.
It is recommended to get these while going for the Pirate Ship parts achievement.

The Prinny and the Mushroom is the Item World Innocent Town also give fun weapons, some pirates too but its way easier to get them in the Discipline Room while looking for Pirate Ship Parts.

Here is a video showcasing all items in case you want to see what you are missing:

Important Tip (Please do this so you save time)

When you unlock a new class, you will need to level it up so you unlock all Tiers (There are Six tiers), these tiers unlock at different levels, the Android, for example, takes level 1440 to unlock its final Tier, you will also need a lot of mana, this is why its important to use the Cheat Shop along with the pyramid and training grounds evil symbols to quickly upgrade your new members.

You will also need to do this before starting hunting for Pirate parts since you need to have the tier and class of the enemy you want to capture.

You might not have space to create ALL monsters and Human classes so double check you have done everything before deleting.

Watch out, some characters look like generic classes but they have special skills, do not delete them!

To quickly level up your characters, unlock Mt. Ordeal, to get this bill to show up in the senate, you need a character with 7000 mana, read the Tips section for more info on leveling and getting that Mana for your tier promotions.

Unlocking Classes

Reach the indicated level to unlock the corresponding class.
You need to have them in your roster to count!
Do not reincarnate or delete until you have all classes unlocked!
(i.e to get Archer, you need a Healer AND a F. Warrior both in your Roster at Level 15 or more)

To unlock monster classes, you need to defeat them in battle.

You will need to pass a bill in the senate first to be able to create a new class you just unlocked.

Android:
Beat the main game and start a 2nd playthrough.

Archer:
Healer and F.Warrior level 15.

Heavy Knight:
Warrior level 20

Beast Master:
Warrior or F.Warrior level 15

Bouncer:
Complete Episode 7 completed or level 100 Heavy Knight

Gunner:
Thief and Skull level 15

Lady Samurai (Exorcist):
F.Warrior and Archer level 30

Magic Knight (Force Knight):
Warrior or F.Warrior , and Skull or F. Mage level 30

Masked Hero:
Thief and Warrior level 25

Ninja:
Thief and Skull level 30

Onmyo Monk:
Shaman and Ninja level 30

Professor:
Healer and Shaman level 20

Shaman:
Skull and F. Mage level 15

A lot of guides say that there are missable skills like Nemo's Fear The Great and Des X, but you can recruit those characters, i'm pretty sure you can get the skill record from when you recruit them.

Some characters like Main Hero B, Evil Ranger Pink, Kyoko and Asuka, Prism Red, Hugo, etc look like generic characters but they actually have special unique skills you need to see for this achievement and if you delete them, you might need to do a new cycle to get them back, be careful when deleting!

You will also need to see Asagi HD's skills, you can get Asagi HD if you go to the senate as Asagi and pass the new techonology bill, be careful, once you do, the old normal Asagi will get deleted along with her equipment, make sure you have seen normal Asagi's skills and unequip her before you do this.

You might also want to set your settings to turn skill animations OFF, when an unseen skill animation happens, the game will show it to you but if you already have it, it will skip it. Experiment with this.

Anyway, once you complete all classes and tiers (except Android) and BEFORE deleting them, make sure you use all their unique skills (they have an extended 5-finger hand icon) and get them registered under the "Human Skills" section of the database. Some skills, like the Geo Skills of the Monk, wont get recorded, so be on the lookout.

For monsters, you need their unique skills in magichange form too.

But you also need to record their TWO weapon versions, (this is for the item collector achievement though) the normal weapon magichange version and the BIG FUSIONED magichange version.

To magichange, just stand near a monster, then use the monster's magichange command to make it a weapon, use both weapon skills to count.

Remember that there are some unique characters that are monsters (like Desco,Priere,Gig,etc) so you need their magichange skills and two weapon forms too.

For each human character check: Unique skills, Human Skills.
For each monster check: Magichange skills, normal magichange weapon version, fusioned magichange weapon version.

You will also need to unlock all DLC characters and beat all Special ones (the ones that give you achievements and power up the cheat shop), including Prinny Kurtis and Petta.

Also, experience all skills from Pringer X and Tyrant Baal.

As you go and level into the item world, you will unlock all the normal monster skills as they try and get you and most normal weapon and spell skills, if after dozens of item world dives, you are still missing some, learn the skills with a mage/warrior.

The rarest spells are things like Charm, Slow, Poison, etc, enemies dont often use those, also the Healing spells like Peta heal.

Remember that you need to suffer Pringer-X and Tyrant Baal skills too!

Chara World Skills

There are also special rare/lost art skills that can only be found in the chara world.

In the chara world, if you clear the floor of all blocks, you have a chance of finding a prinny that sells special skills for mana, there are two versions of this prinny and each sells a different skill.
You can only purchase one skill per run and you might not get the prinny you want.

The Prinny will only sell these skills to Human characters, not monsters.

To farm these, go into the first floor of a HUMAN chara world, clear the floor of blocks, go into the portal, if prinny sells the skill you need get it, if not, reload. After getting the skill, use a Gency to start the cycle again.. or you can just finish the 9 other floors, your choice.

These two special weapon skills are the 7th and 8th skills on the list.

The special Final Skill (9th)

To unlock the 9th skill, here is a list of unique characters that can learn:

Fist - Libra Pasio: Fenrich, Axel, Adell
Sword -Wings of Fire: Valvatorez, Zetta, Ash, Krichevskoy
Spear - Barqijal: Etna
Axe - Honest Woodman: ♥♥♥♥
Bow - Barrage Bommerang: Flonne (Fallen Angel)
Gun - Quick Shot: Artina, Asagi, Pleinair

Other generic classes can learn 9th skills, read the link below.

As for all of these skills, learn then use them so they get recorded and count towards the achievement.

In my experience, most unique characters have 3 skills, a few have only one (Nemo) or two (Des X).

This is very missable and you should get all treasure chests at the beginning of every chapter.
You cannot get the postgame chests with a low leveled Valtzy, you need him around level 4000 or 5000 to reach those, here is a list:

Episode 1:

• By the bulletin board.
• Southeast area.
• In the Northeast by Amos MK III. Note that this chest may be hidden. Use and to see it.

Episode 2:

• On top of the Weapon and Armor Shop.
• Southeast area.
• Behind the General Store.

Episode 3:

• Behind the Armor Shop.
• Behind the Evility Shop.
• Northeast area.

Episode 4:

• Behind the Nurse.
• Southeast area, on the stairs.
• On top of the General Store.

Episode 5:

• Southeast in the stairs (north part).
• Behind the General Store.
• Southwest in a higher elevation, just south of the Dimension gate.

Episode 6:

• Behind the Dimension Gate.
• On a higher elevation behind the Weapon Shop.
• Southeast area.

Episode 7:

• Northwest area, on a higher elevation.
• Southeast area by the lava.
• Higher elevation behind the Armor Shop.

Episode 8:

• Southwest Area. May be hard to see. Rotate the camera if necessary.
• On top of statue near the Data Shop.
• Higher elevation behind the General Store and Specialty Store.

Episode 9:

• Behind the Data Shop.
• North above the jail. Rotate the camera to see some steps. Climb up and jump across.
• On top of the bulletin board.

Episode 10:

• To the left of the Weapon Shop. This is hard to see, so rotate the camera if needed.
• Skull in the Southeast area, before the stairs.
• Northwest area on a higher elevation.

Post Game: (Need High level Val)

• Northwest area on a higher elevation. Valvatorez needs to be at a high level to reach it.
• Southwest area on a higher elevation. Valvatorez needs to be at a high level to reach it.
• Southeast of the Data Shop.
• On top of Statue in the middle of the base. It is possible to reach using a running jump from the top of the steps.
• Northeast area behind Amos MK III

Land of Carnage

So, how do you GET to the land of carnage?

The easy answer is: Build a ship and do 40% of the X-Dimensions.

So here we go:

X-Dimensions

To open the X-Dimensions you need to find a Cu-sith Scalper Mystery Room during your Item World travels, its random but I feel its easier to find in high ranked items. You will need quite a bit of HL so you can buy all 63 tickets off him! You can find him again but its a pain, its easier just to buy them all at once.

Some items will always open a mystery portal on Floor 1, you can farm this mechanic and just reload the game if the mystery room doesnt take you to the scalper.

There is another mystery room that sells tickets, very expensive ones, these are like treasure maps and you need one of each for the collector achievement but they are not the ones needed to go to LoC.

Once you buy the tickets, a Force Knight will appear next to Mavel and you can start your road to completing the Land of Carnage.

You need to do ALL X-Dimensions for the achievement:

Uncanny X-Dem

Clear all X-Dimension stages. "You've conquered Dimension X!"

You also need to clear 100% of X-Dimension to get some unique items for (Dedicated Collector) Achievement.
I highly recommend you build the pirate ship first THEN clear 40% of the X dimension, read below why.

Pirate Ship

You will need to build a very special and pretty pirate ship to travel to LoC.

To get most of the pirate ship parts, you need to capture certain enemies and discipline them to get treasure locations, the higher the level of the enemy, the more likely you will find a part you need.

Here's the list: (X means its an X-Dimension)
9-6: Gambriel: Tier 2 Rifle Demon, lvl 446 Rear-Part
X-7-3: Thanatos, Tier 6 Death, over lvl 2500 Left-Side
X-7-6: Prinny King: Tier 5 Prinny, lvl 1390 Right-Side
X-10-1: Force Knight: Tier 5 Magic Knight, lvl 1540 Top
X-10-1: Alchemist, Tier 5 Professor, lvl 1540 Head

Adjust the star power settigs on the cheat shop to get the required levels, the levels are important to improve your chances.

Capturing mechanics.

If you dont know the capturing mechanics, its simple.
Lift an enemy and throw it into the base blue panel, the less HP it has, the easier will be, but usually there shouldnt be problems with a full hp enemy.

A battle will happen, I THINK the capturing mechanics consider the stats of everyone inside versus the enemy that got thrown in, so I always leave my strongest characters in there to help capturing but I always leave my main character out in case the base panel is destroyed and I need to complete the item world section.
If you win, the enemy will be sent to the discipline room.

Discipline Room and Treasure

The basics are simple, you capture a mob, you go to the room, you discipline them and then ask you for treasure.
The game will check a CLEARED battle area to spawn the treasure, this is why we havent cleared 40% of the X-Dimension, to avoid the part to be spawned there, only clear the X-Dimensions on the list above and maaaybe X8-8.

Anyway, the higher the mob level the higher the chances a good treasure will spawn (like pirate ship parts).

The item of the treasure will always be set the moment you ask the enemy for treasure.
So, always save after their SP is low enough to ask for treasure but before asking for treasure, if you go into the battle and open the treasure and find is trash, reload.
This is very time consuming so we need to fool the game to give us the treasure in a fast battle that we can clear in under a minute.

Repeat these until you have all the Pirate Parts on the list above.

The Last Ship part.. the Meowkins have it!

They spawn on levels 25+ in the Item Worlds.
Use the cheat shop to make them spawn more often.
They are level 9000... so yeah, prepare for a battle, you need to kill them before they kill you.
Once you defeat the Meowkin pirates, you will get your final ship piece!

Go ahead and do the 40% X-Dimensions.. use the guide link I posted if needed and good luck!

You can read more about the Land of Carnage here:
https://disgaea.fandom.com/wiki/Land_of_Carnage#Disgaea_4:_A_Promise_Unforgotten